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[openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

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Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbclagujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZnz4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is 

the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has
it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen

Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into
a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At
this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one
of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this
would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV
001v010101p.pdf

To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2] http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV%20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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asked Jun 10, 2014 in openstack-dev by ramki_Krishnan (520 points)   1
retagged Jan 28, 2015 by admin

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responded Jun 11, 2014 by =?UTF-8?B?Vm9sa2VyIE (140 points)   1
0 votes

Hi Cu Volker,

Many thanks for catching this. I will fix this shortly.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Volker L?tterle [mailto:openstack at systems-networking.de]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:48 PM
To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Ramki,

On 11.06.2014 00:06, ramki Krishnan wrote:>

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbclagujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZnz4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538f
>

there are a two typo on the last line of the docoment, IMHO:

x1+x2+x3 >= 20 VMs, x1 <= 10 VMs, x2 <= 10 VMs, x3 <= 10 VMs
y1+y2+y3 >= 2 Gbps, y1 = 0, y2 <= 10Gbps, y3 <= 10Gbps

cu Volker

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responded Jun 11, 2014 by ramki_Krishnan (520 points)   1
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Hi Ramki

Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which NFV is one.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbclagujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZnz4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is 

the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has
it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen

Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into
a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At
this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one
of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this
would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV
001v010101p.pdf

To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2] http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV%20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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responded Jun 12, 2014 by Alan_Kavanagh (1,780 points)   1 2
0 votes

Hi Alan,

Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been
in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the
Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this
smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex
constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a
smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to
NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and
work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement
scenarios.

We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that
you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our
future roadmap.

Thanks,
Yathi.

On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, "Alan Kavanagh" <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi Ramki

Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that
are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a
constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is
not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which
NFV is one.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements
for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use
case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/documen
t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbcla
gujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2b
qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZn
z4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538
f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member
only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at
least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and
context

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is

the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has
it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen

Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into
a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At
this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one
of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this
would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV
001v010101p.pdf

To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based
on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document [2].
This really lists workload types rather than specific applications,
although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics
of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as
something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to
either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g.
around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to,
or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to
create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2]
http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV
%20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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responded Jun 12, 2014 by Yathiraj_Udupi_(yudu (1,040 points)   1 1
0 votes

Yathi - many thanks for adding more NFV context.

Alan - many thanks for the interest and would be glad to have further discussions.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) [mailto:yudupi at cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:53 AM
To: Alan Kavanagh
Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Alan,

Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement scenarios.

We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our future roadmap.

Thanks,
Yathi.

On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, "Alan Kavanagh" <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi Ramki

Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints
that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a
constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this
is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of
which NFV is one.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements
for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use
case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docu
men
t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlb
cla
gujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2Bx
Y2b
qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRz
GZn
z4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118
538
f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member
only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at
least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and
context

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where 

is the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week?
Has it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen

Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them -
into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki.
At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering
one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally
this would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NF
V
001v010101p.pdf

To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1]
based on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document [2].
This really lists workload types rather than specific applications,
although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the
characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think
of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is
welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g.
around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring
to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need
to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2]
http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20
NFV %20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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responded Jun 12, 2014 by ramki_Krishnan (520 points)   1
0 votes

++ Yathi.

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:48 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Alan Kavanagh
Cc: Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Yathi - many thanks for adding more NFV context.

Alan - many thanks for the interest and would be glad to have further discussions.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) [mailto:yudupi at cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:53 AM
To: Alan Kavanagh
Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Alan,

Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement scenarios.

We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our future roadmap.

Thanks,
Yathi.

On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, "Alan Kavanagh" <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi Ramki

Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints
that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a
constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this
is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of
which NFV is one.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements
for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use
case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docu
men
t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlb
cla
gujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2Bx
Y2b
qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRz
GZn
z4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118
538
f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member
only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at
least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and
context

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where 

is the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week?
Has it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen

Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them -
into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki.
At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering
one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally
this would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NF
V
001v010101p.pdf

To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1]
based on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document [2].
This really lists workload types rather than specific applications,
although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the
characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think
of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is
welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g.
around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring
to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need
to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2]
http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20
NFV %20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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responded Jun 12, 2014 by ramki_Krishnan (520 points)   1
0 votes

Hi Yathi

The BP's I am referring too are the nic state aware scheduling (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nic-state-aware-scheduling ) and the PCI device capability aware scheduling (appears to have been deleted, will upload it again). I can see NFV utilising this for some apps we have the same view point on this too, though my main gripe on this was its applicable to others.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) [mailto:yudupi at cisco.com]
Sent: June-12-14 2:53 PM
To: Alan Kavanagh
Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Debojyoti Dutta
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Alan,

Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement scenarios.

We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our future roadmap.

Thanks,
Yathi.

On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, "Alan Kavanagh" <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi Ramki

Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints
that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a
constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this
is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of
which NFV is one.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements
for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use
case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docu
men
t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlb
cla
gujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2Bx
Y2b
qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRz
GZn
z4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118
538
f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member
only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at
least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and
context

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where 

is the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week?
Has it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen

Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them -
into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki.
At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering
one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally
this would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NF
V
001v010101p.pdf

To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1]
based on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document [2].
This really lists workload types rather than specific applications,
although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the
characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think
of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is
welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g.
around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring
to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need
to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2]
http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20
NFV %20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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responded Jun 13, 2014 by Alan_Kavanagh (1,780 points)   1 2
0 votes

Hi Yathi,

Le 12/06/2014 20:53, Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) a ?crit :

Hi Alan,

Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been
in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the
Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this
smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex
constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a
smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to
NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and
work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement
scenarios.

We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that
you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our
future roadmap.

Indeed, Smart Scheduler is something that could help NFV use-cases. My
only concern is about the necessary steps for providing such a feature,
with regards to the scheduler breakout that is coming.

Could you please make sure the current nova-spec [1] is taking in
account all other efforts about the scheduler, like scheduler forklift
[2], on-demand resource reporting [3] or others ? It also seems the spec
is not following the defined template, could you please fix it ? It
would be easier to review your proposal.

Gantt and Nova scheduler teams are attending a weekly meeting every
Tuesday at 3pm UTC. Would you have a chance to join, it would be great
to discuss about your proposal and how we can identify all the
milestones for this and potentially track progress on it.

Thanks,
-Sylvain

[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96543/
[2] https://review.openstack.org/82133 and
https://review.openstack.org/89893
[3] https://review.openstack.org/97903

Thanks,
Yathi.

On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, "Alan Kavanagh" <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi Ramki

Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that
are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a
constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is
not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which
NFV is one.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements
for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use
case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/documen
t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbcla
gujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2b
qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZn
z4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538
f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member
only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at
least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and
context

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is

the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has
it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen
Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into
a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At
this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one
of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this
would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV
001v010101p.pdf
To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based
on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document [2].
This really lists workload types rather than specific applications,
although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics
of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as
something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to
either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g.
around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to,
or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to
create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2]
http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV
%20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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responded Jun 13, 2014 by Sylvain_Bauza (14,100 points)   1 3 5
0 votes

Hi Sylvain,

The Smart Scheduler work should work along withGantt easily, as it is just
another scheduler driver, instead of using the Filters, it will have a
separate mechanism of solving the placement problem all at once.
So just like how it currently works along with Nova scheduler, it should
easily be integrated into Gantt, is what I would imagine. I have not
looked very closely at the Gantt work, but I assume if you claim, no
behavior changes in Gantt, and if you are continuing to use
FilterScheduler, SmartScheduler should fit in too.

I will try to update the nova-spec ([1]
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96543/) for Smart Scheduler, and let the
review continue sometime soon.

Thanks,
Yathi.

On 6/13/14, 12:37 AM, "Sylvain Bauza" wrote:

Hi Yathi,

Le 12/06/2014 20:53, Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) a ?crit :

Hi Alan,

Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been
in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at
the
Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this
smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex
constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a
smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to
NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint
and
work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement
scenarios.

We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints
that
you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of
our
future roadmap.

Indeed, Smart Scheduler is something that could help NFV use-cases. My
only concern is about the necessary steps for providing such a feature,
with regards to the scheduler breakout that is coming.

Could you please make sure the current nova-spec [1] is taking in
account all other efforts about the scheduler, like scheduler forklift
[2], on-demand resource reporting [3] or others ? It also seems the spec
is not following the defined template, could you please fix it ? It
would be easier to review your proposal.

Gantt and Nova scheduler teams are attending a weekly meeting every
Tuesday at 3pm UTC. Would you have a chance to join, it would be great
to discuss about your proposal and how we can identify all the
milestones for this and potentially track progress on it.

Thanks,
-Sylvain

[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96543/
[2] https://review.openstack.org/82133 and
https://review.openstack.org/89893
[3] https://review.openstack.org/97903

Thanks,
Yathi.

On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, "Alan Kavanagh" <alan.kavanagh at ericsson.com>
wrote:

Hi Ramki

Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints
that
are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a
constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this
is
not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of
which
NFV is one.

/Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:ramk at Brocade.com]
Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

Forgot to mention, the "Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements
for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc." is a good example of an NFV use
case deep dive for OpenStack.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docum
en

t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbc
la

gujw8c&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY
2b

qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzG
Zn

z4%3D%0A&s=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa1185
38
f

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: ramki Krishnan
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira
Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context

Hi Steve,

We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member
only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at
least a draft) to fuel the kick start.

Thanks,
Ramki

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgordon at redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and
context

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Gordon"
To: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: "Stephen Wong" <stephen.kf.wong at gmail.com>
To: "ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI)" <itai.mendelsohn at alcatel-lucent.com>,
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Hi,

Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is

the use case => bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has
it been created yet?

Thanks,
- Stephen
Hi,

Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the
discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into
a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At
this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one
of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this
would form a basis for discussing the format etc.

Thanks,

Steve

[1]
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV
001v010101p.pdf
To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1]
based
on the DRAFT NFV Performance & Portability Best Practises document
[2].
This really lists workload types rather than specific applications,
although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them.

I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the
characteristics
of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as
something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to
either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories
(e.g.
around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring
to,
or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to
create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here).

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases
[2]

http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20N
FV
%20Performance%20&%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf


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responded Jun 16, 2014 by Yathiraj_Udupi_(yudu (1,040 points)   1 1
0 votes

Hello,

I confirm ... one of my college has the same trouble.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:57 AM, "Sami J. M?kinen" <sjm+osdevel at hard.ware.fi
wrote:

Hello all.

I am trying to sign the New Contributor Agreement to be able to
submit a new blueprint for review.

For several weeks now, I just always get an error message included below.
I even suspected browser compatibility problems, but trying with Google
Chrome, Opera or Firefox dit not help at all.


Code Review - Error
Server Error
Cannot store contact information
(button) Continue


Pls halp!

BR,

-sjm


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