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[openstack-dev] [Sahara] Difference between Sahara and CloudBrak

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Hi Sahara Team,

Just notice that the CloudBreak (https://github.com/sequenceiq/cloudbreak)
also support running on top of OpenStack, can anyone show me some
difference between Sahara and CloudBreak when both of them using OpenStack
as Infrastructure Manager?

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Thanks,

Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)


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asked Jun 15, 2015 in openstack-dev by Jay_Lau (7,320 points)   1 8 10

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Hi Jay,

Cloudbreak is a Hadoop installation tool driven by Hortonworks. The main
difference with Sahara is a point of control. In Hortonworks world you have
Ambari and different planforms (AWS, OpenStack, etc.) to run Hadoop. Sahara
point of view - you have OpenStack cluster and want to control everything
from horizon (Hadoop of any vendor, Murano apps, etc.).

So,
If you tied with Hortonworks, spend most working time in Ambari and run
Hadoop on different types of clouds - choose CloudBreak.
If you have OpenStack infrastructure and want to run Hadoop on top of it -
choose Sahara.

Thanks,
Andrew.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Jay Lau jay.lau.513@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Sahara Team,

Just notice that the CloudBreak (https://github.com/sequenceiq/cloudbreak)
also support running on top of OpenStack, can anyone show me some
difference between Sahara and CloudBreak when both of them using OpenStack
as Infrastructure Manager?

--
Thanks,

Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)


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responded Jun 15, 2015 by Andrew_Lazarev (1,500 points)   1 2
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I tried (or tried to try) Cloudbreak recently, as I need to deploy a newer
version of HDP than Sahara supports.

The interface is slick, but lacks the ability to make some choices about
your OpenStack installation. The heat template the software generated
wouldn't work with my deployment, and there wasn't a way to fix it. I think
they are primarily targeting public cloud providers.

I see Sahara vs. CloudBreak like this:

Sahara - Hadoop distro agnostic deployment for OpenStack
CloudBreak - Cloud agnostic deployment of HDP

-Chris

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Andrew Lazarev alazarev@mirantis.com
wrote:

Hi Jay,

Cloudbreak is a Hadoop installation tool driven by Hortonworks. The main
difference with Sahara is a point of control. In Hortonworks world you have
Ambari and different planforms (AWS, OpenStack, etc.) to run Hadoop. Sahara
point of view - you have OpenStack cluster and want to control everything
from horizon (Hadoop of any vendor, Murano apps, etc.).

So,
If you tied with Hortonworks, spend most working time in Ambari and run
Hadoop on different types of clouds - choose CloudBreak.
If you have OpenStack infrastructure and want to run Hadoop on top of it -
choose Sahara.

Thanks,
Andrew.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Jay Lau jay.lau.513@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Sahara Team,

Just notice that the CloudBreak (https://github.com/sequenceiq/cloudbreak)
also support running on top of OpenStack, can anyone show me some
difference between Sahara and CloudBreak when both of them using OpenStack
as Infrastructure Manager?

--
Thanks,

Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)


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responded Jun 18, 2015 by chris.buccella_at_ve (520 points)   2 3
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Chris Buccella <chris.buccella@verilume.com
wrote:

I tried (or tried to try) Cloudbreak recently, as I need to deploy a newer
version of HDP than Sahara supports.

The interface is slick, but lacks the ability to make some choices about
your OpenStack installation. The heat template the software generated
wouldn't work with my deployment, and there wasn't a way to fix it. I think
they are primarily targeting public cloud providers.

I am curious to know more about what types of issues you saw. It sounds
like this is the exact type of issue that DefCore, and the general push for
better interoperability, should fix.

I see Sahara vs. CloudBreak like this:

Sahara - Hadoop distro agnostic deployment for OpenStack
CloudBreak - Cloud agnostic deployment of HDP

The future releases section of http://sequenceiq.com/cloudbreak/ says it
will soon support more then just 'Hortonworks Data Platform.' So assuming
cloudbreak evolves as expected what is the difference, it sounds like
Sahara will just be a subset of cloudbreak.

-Chris

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Andrew Lazarev alazarev@mirantis.com
wrote:t it

Hi Jay,

Cloudbreak is a Hadoop installation tool driven by Hortonworks. The main
difference with Sahara is a point of control. In Hortonworks world you have
Ambari and different planforms (AWS, OpenStack, etc.) to run Hadoop. Sahara
point of view - you have OpenStack cluster and want to control everything
from horizon (Hadoop of any vendor, Murano apps, etc.).

So,
If you tied with Hortonworks, spend most working time in Ambari and run
Hadoop on different types of clouds - choose CloudBreak.
If you have OpenStack infrastructure and want to run Hadoop on top of it
- choose Sahara.

Thanks,
Andrew.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Jay Lau jay.lau.513@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Sahara Team,

Just notice that the CloudBreak (
https://github.com/sequenceiq/cloudbreak) also support running on top
of OpenStack, can anyone show me some difference between Sahara and
CloudBreak when both of them using OpenStack as Infrastructure Manager?

--
Thanks,

Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)


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responded Jun 21, 2015 by Joe_Gordon (24,620 points)   2 5 8
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