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Greetings,

I am wondering the reason for the complementary projects listing[1] in
Stackalytics? Specifically, why does stackalytics-processor import
docker and cloudfoundry projects into the stats?

[1] http://stackalytics.com/?project_type=complementary&metric=commits


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asked Jun 18, 2015 in openstack-dev by pabelanger_at_redhat (6,560 points)   1 1 2

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Paul Belanger wrote:
I am wondering the reason for the complementary projects listing[1] in
Stackalytics? Specifically, why does stackalytics-processor import
docker and cloudfoundry projects into the stats?

[1] http://stackalytics.com/?project_type=complementary&metric=commits

It's not a community decision. I'd say it is an editorial decision of
the current owner of the project and website. While we are trying to
move this project under the Infra project team and the Technical
Committee oversight, it is currently still a Stackforge project owned by
Mirantis.

Personally if we were to move it under Infra I would (1) remove the
complementary projects and (2) make sure that whoever wants to reuse
stackalytics code to track Docker / CloudFoundry activity can easily do so.

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Thierry Carrez (ttx)


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responded Jun 19, 2015 by Thierry_Carrez (57,480 points)   3 8 13
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Some reasons of having complementary projects in Stackalytics:
* to compare efforts in other communities with OpenStack - just to feed
curiosity on what is larger OpenStack or Kubernetes?
* to light interest to contribute to projects that OpenStack depends on,
like OVS and Ansible.
* to keep an eye on commercial interest and know who is sponsoring near-by
technologies.

I agree that adding complementary projects was an authoritarian decision
and ready to remove them in the community version if TC decides so.

Thanks,
Ilya

2015-06-19 10:48 GMT+03:00 Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org:

Paul Belanger wrote:

I am wondering the reason for the complementary projects listing[1] in
Stackalytics? Specifically, why does stackalytics-processor import
docker and cloudfoundry projects into the stats?

[1] http://stackalytics.com/?project_type=complementary&metric=commits

It's not a community decision. I'd say it is an editorial decision of
the current owner of the project and website. While we are trying to
move this project under the Infra project team and the Technical
Committee oversight, it is currently still a Stackforge project owned by
Mirantis.

Personally if we were to move it under Infra I would (1) remove the
complementary projects and (2) make sure that whoever wants to reuse
stackalytics code to track Docker / CloudFoundry activity can easily do so.

--
Thierry Carrez (ttx)


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responded Jun 19, 2015 by Ilya_Shakhat (1,460 points)   4
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On 06/19/2015 09:19 AM, Ilya Shakhat wrote:
Some reasons of having complementary projects in Stackalytics:
* to compare efforts in other communities with OpenStack - just to
feed curiosity on what is larger OpenStack or Kubernetes?
* to light interest to contribute to projects that OpenStack depends
on, like OVS and Ansible.
* to keep an eye on commercial interest and know who is sponsoring
near-by technologies.

I agree that adding complementary projects was an authoritarian decision
and ready to remove them in the community version if TC decides so.

Hi Ilya,

Personally, I quite like having those complementary projects in
Stackalytics, for the reasons you note above.

Best,
-jay


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responded Jun 19, 2015 by Jay_Pipes (59,760 points)   3 10 14
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On Jun 19, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jay Pipes" jaypipes@gmail.com wrote:

On 06/19/2015 09:19 AM, Ilya Shakhat wrote:

Some reasons of having complementary projects in Stackalytics:
* to compare efforts in other communities with OpenStack - just to
feed curiosity on what is larger OpenStack or Kubernetes?
* to light interest to contribute to projects that OpenStack depends
on, like OVS and Ansible.
* to keep an eye on commercial interest and know who is sponsoring
near-by technologies.

I agree that adding complementary projects was an authoritarian decision
and ready to remove them in the community version if TC decides so.

Hi Ilya,

Personally, I quite like having those complementary projects in
Stackalytics, for the reasons you note above.

Although it's not very useful for 'reviews'

I also wonder how well maintained the email mappings are for complementary
projects.

Best,
-jay


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responded Jun 19, 2015 by Joe_Gordon (24,620 points)   2 5 8
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On 06/19/2015 10:31 AM, Joe Gordon wrote:
On Jun 19, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jay Pipes" <jaypipes@gmail.com
jaypipes@gmail.com> wrote:

On 06/19/2015 09:19 AM, Ilya Shakhat wrote:

Some reasons of having complementary projects in Stackalytics:
* to compare efforts in other communities with OpenStack - just to
feed curiosity on what is larger OpenStack or Kubernetes?
* to light interest to contribute to projects that OpenStack depends
on, like OVS and Ansible.
* to keep an eye on commercial interest and know who is sponsoring
near-by technologies.

I agree that adding complementary projects was an authoritarian decision
and ready to remove them in the community version if TC decides so.

Hi Ilya,

Personally, I quite like having those complementary projects in
Stackalytics, for the reasons you note above.

Although it's not very useful for 'reviews'

http://stackalytics.com/?project_type=complementary

Sure, agreed :)

I also wonder how well maintained the email mappings are for
complementary projects.

Good point. I'm sure there can be many improvements made to the support
for complementary projects. I was just remarking that I find the
information there to be interesting, nothing more.

-jay


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responded Jun 19, 2015 by Jay_Pipes (59,760 points)   3 10 14
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On 06/19/2015 11:40 AM, Jay Pipes wrote:
On 06/19/2015 10:31 AM, Joe Gordon wrote:

On Jun 19, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jay Pipes" <jaypipes@gmail.com
jaypipes@gmail.com> wrote:

On 06/19/2015 09:19 AM, Ilya Shakhat wrote:

Some reasons of having complementary projects in Stackalytics:
* to compare efforts in other communities with OpenStack - just to
feed curiosity on what is larger OpenStack or Kubernetes?
* to light interest to contribute to projects that OpenStack
depends
on, like OVS and Ansible.
* to keep an eye on commercial interest and know who is sponsoring
near-by technologies.

I agree that adding complementary projects was an authoritarian
decision
and ready to remove them in the community version if TC decides so.

Hi Ilya,

Personally, I quite like having those complementary projects in
Stackalytics, for the reasons you note above.

Although it's not very useful for 'reviews'

http://stackalytics.com/?project_type=complementary

Sure, agreed :)

I also wonder how well maintained the email mappings are for
complementary projects.

Good point. I'm sure there can be many improvements made to the support
for complementary projects. I was just remarking that I find the
information there to be interesting, nothing more.

I also find it interesting. I, in fact, added the ansible and python
packaging related repos to the list, because I found it interesting.

It's also nice to see that we're not completely insular - that we, as
OpenStack, also work with others. We have humans working in both
openstack and openvswitch, for instance. And who are working in ansible
and openstack. Etc. I think that's a great positive thing to be able to
highlight - we are, after all, not an island to ourselves, but are part
of a larger community.

So, my vote will be to keep them. I'm only one vote, of course, but I
think it would be a shame to get rid of them.

Monty


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responded Jun 19, 2015 by Monty_Taylor (22,780 points)   2 5 7
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